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HATRIOT “Dawn Of The New Centurion” – Is A Dawn Of Grand Thrash Metal!

Posted in Heavy Metal, Metal, metal bands, metal music, Music, news, rock music, rock music news, Thrash Metal, world news with tags , , , , , , , on January 31, 2014 by Metal Odyssey

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HATRIOT – Releasing on February 21st, 2014, via Massacre Records, is the sophomore album from HATRIOT: Dawn Of The New Centurion. Bay Area Thrash legend, Steve “Zetro” Souza, has once again delivered an insanely solid and eye-popping vocal performance! All fans of HATRIOT and Thrash Metal should be psyched out of their skin, once they listen to these 9 songs of true, old school Thrash Metal. Steve has to be extremely damn proud of this follow-up to their kick-ass 2013 debut album: Heroes Of Origin.

The guitar duo, (led by) Kosta V with Miguel Esparza are freaking incredible to lose your brain cells to! Whoa! Both of these axe slingers play in true Bay Area Thrash Metal style, with speed, heaviness, melodic character and plenty of furious interludes. Solid as hell is HATRIOT and they bestow the talent you’d come to expect from Thrash icons such as Anthrax, Testament, Megadeth, Death Angel and Forbidden.

There’s NO filler on this album, just plenty of Thrash greatness. The gang vocals are prevalent throughout, with a Thrash spirited rhythm section of yesteryear. Yes, Steve “Zetro” Souza has proven himself as an ultimate Thrash Metal mentor and his 2 sons in HATRIOT, Cody (bass) and Nick (drums), must surely be grateful! If I must pick my favorite song from this gem, it’s the title track. Dawn Of The New Centurion is a complete Thrash Metal package, with every song a killer! This is an electrifying Thrash Metal album; one that bridges the glory years of the 80’s to our modern-day of Thrash Metal. Hell yes and… Metal be thy name. – Stone

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Dawn Of The New Centurion – Track Listing:

1. From My Cold Dead Hands

2. Your Worst Enemy

3. The Fear Within

4. Honor The Rise And Fall

5. Superkillafragsadisticactsaresoatrocious

6. Silence In The House Of The Lord

7. World Funeral

8. Dawn Of The New Centurion

9. Consolation For The Insane

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* For more info on HATRIOT:

Website: http://www.hatriotmetal.com

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/hatriot

Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/hatriotmetal

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LONG LIVE HATRIOT.

LONG LIVE THRASH METAL.

Stone.

HAVOK – Joins Up With Revocation, White Wizzard And Thrash Legends Forbidden On 2011 North American Tour!

Posted in Heavy Metal, heavy metal concerts, metal music, metal odyssey, Music, rock music, rock music news, Thrash Metal, thrash metal bands with tags , , , , , , , , , , on May 31, 2011 by Metal Odyssey

HAVOK is gearing up to join Bay Area Thrash Legends, Forbidden, for a near month-long journey that will kick off in West Hollywood, California and level 20 more North American cities before drawing to a close in Escondido, California. Confirmed dates below:

HAVOK w/ Forbidden, Revocation, White Wizzard:

6/09/2011 @ Whiskey A Go-Go – W. Hollywood, CA

6/11/2011 @ The Alley – Sparks, NV

6/12/2011 @ Hawthorne Theater – Portland, OR

6/13/2011 @ Studio Seven – Seattle, WA

6/14/2011 @ Rickshaw Theater – Vancouver, BC

6/15/2011 @ Sapphire Nightclub – Kelowna, BC

6/16/2011 @ Pawn Shop – Edmonton, AB

6/17/2011 @ Riddell Centre – Regina, SK

6/18/2011 @ Royal Albert Arms – Winnipeg, MB

6/19/2011 @ Station – St. Paul, MN

6/20/2011 @ Mad Planet – Milwaukee, WI

6/21/2011 @ Reggie’s Rock Club – Chicago, IL

6/22/2011 @ Peabody’s – Cleveland, OH

6/23/2011 @ Montage Music Hall – Rochester, NY

6/24/2011 @ Championship Bar – Trenton, NJ

6/25/2011 @ Alrosa Villa – Columbus, OH

6/26/2011 @ Fubar – St. Louis, MO

6/27/2011 @ Beaumont Club – Kansas City, MO

6/29/2011 @ Marquis Theatre – Denver, CO

6/30/2011 @ Launchpad – Albuquerque, NM

7/01/2011 @ Clubhouse – Tempe, AZ

7/02/2011 @ JT’s Limelight – Escondido, CA

(Source: Earsplit PR)

* For more info on HAVOK, click on the links below:

http://www.myspace.com/havok

http://www.facebook.com/HavokOfficial

http://www.candlelightrecordsusa.com

* For more info on FORBIDDEN, click the link below:

FORBIDDEN – myspace music page

* For more info on WHITE WIZZARD, click the link below:

White Wizzard – Official Website

* For more info on REVOCATION, click the link below:

REVOCATION – myspace music

LONG LIVE HAVOK.

LONG LIVE FORBIDDEN.

LONG LIVE REVOCATION & WHITE WIZZARD.

Stone.

ATTACKHEAD – Release New Video and Announce Upcoming Tour

Posted in Heavy Metal, metal music, metal odyssey, Music, rock music, rock music news, Thrash Metal, thrash metal bands with tags , , , , , , , , , on May 18, 2011 by Metal Odyssey

ATTACKHEAD – Southern California’s ATTACKHEAD have just released an audio blog update via their TheLiveLine profile about an upcoming tour and newly released video.  In the audio blog, singer and guitarist Mark Chapman reveals the music video for the bands latest single, “Rebirth”, is available on their homepage (www.attackhead.com) or their YouTube page (www.youtube.com/attackheadmusic).

The band will also be embarking on the “Northwest Civil Unrest Tour” beginning on September 15th in Oregon.

Mark’s audio blog can be heard on the ATTACKHEAD TheLiveLine profile (http://theliveline.com/MarkChapman) or by calling Mark at 702-967-9050

(Source: Team All About The Music – Publicity)

(Album cover at top of post: Voices In The Dark – Second Attack, released Fall of 2010 via Twisted Hillbilly Records)

LONG LIVE ATTACKHEAD.

Stone.

GAMA BOMB “Tales From The Grave In Space” – A Thrashin’, Moshin’, Old School Blowout!

Posted in Heavy Metal, metal music, metal odyssey, Music, rock music, rock music news, Thrash Metal, thrash metal bands with tags , , , , , , , , , on December 3, 2010 by Metal Odyssey

GAMA BOMB – Released back on February 9, 2010, on Earache Records, Tales From The Grave In Space is a Thrash Metal album that mixes in spooky themes, plenty of good times-moshin’ vibes and a whole lot of Old School. Metal as my witness, Gama Bomb gets it. These Irish dudes are obviously well versed and influenced by the golden age of Thrash Metal, still they deliver a fresh approach to making Old School feel like it’s new again. In comparing Gama Bomb’s sound to any of the legendary Thrash Metal bands, Anthrax comes to my Metal mind. The gang vocals coupled with the vocals from Philly Byrne, over all the free spirited Thrash noize that Gama Bomb administers, has me leaning towards those days when Anthrax sported printed shorts, unlaced sneakers and comic tees.

All legendary comparisons aside, Gama Bomb is a younger band that seems to have caught some Thrash Metal magic in a bottle… all the while steering away from anything that can make their Thrash Metal come across watered down. In other words, no silly ballad or over production will be heard on Tales From The Grave In Space… thank God. This Gama Bomb album is all about the meat and potatoes of Thrash Metal, with stacks of excitable guitar leads, solos and thick riffs. Mentioning the gang vocals again, only magnifies the nod of importance that Gama Bomb takes towards an Old School vibe and persona.

Metal be thy name, each time I listen to this Gama Bomb album, I get all Metal invigorated, wishing I decided on having a mosh pit added onto my house. That’s fine though, my current household surroundings shall suffice. As you listen to this album, it’s easy to discern Gama Bomb is not about being pissed off, instead their Thrash evokes having one damn ghoulish good time. There’s no disputing Gama Bomb likes to have (gasp) fun with their song titles and lyrics, which in turn makes them all the more enticing. So often, listening to music is described as an escape, with Tales From The Grave In Space, I have gleefully escaped any antagonistic stimuli peering in from the outside world.

All twelve songs are rip and tear Thrash and Gama Bomb accomplished quite the complete album without any aggregate waste. Thrash Metal fans both young and (gasp) old should give Gama Bomb a thorough listen… it is Metal time well spent for me. The songs on this album are all relatively short, with just two songs clocking in just barely over 3 minutes. The lack of an epic song is actually like a breath of Metal fresh air. The equality in these songs running time makes for a rapid fire listen that never loses my Metal attention.

Back in late February or early March of this year, Metal Buddy “Kinger” from Demolish Fanzine – 1980’s Heavy Metal Revival emailed me a link to check out Gama Bomb giving away free, their newly released Tales From The Grave In Space via download. Kinger couldn’t believe it, nor could I, that a band and it’s respective record company were actually giving their fans the opportunity to download their new album free of charge! It was a stupendous lead from Kinger, breaking this Gama Bomb news.

A huge Metal kudos goes out to both Gama Bomb and Earache Records! I checked as recent as today, (December 3, 2010), to see if Tales From The Grave In Space is still available for free & legal download… it is! Just click on the link below to download this Thrashtastic album from Gama Bomb, FREE!.. courtesy of Gama Bomb and Earache Records.

FREE GAMA BOMB ALBUM FROM EARACHE RECORDS!

I did purchase the hardcopy of this Gama Bomb CD at fye sometime around this past March. The liner notes and all accompanying artwork were the draw… there are 8 mini comics within the liner notes, each one corresponds to a track on Tales From The Grave In Space.  The mini comics are: Three Witches, Last Ninjas Unite, Escape From Scarecrow Mountain, Apocalypse 1997, Return To Blood Castle, Polterghost, Skeletron and Mummy Invasion. There are also some amusing and vintage magazine/comic ads from yesteryear in these liner notes as well, the likes of: body building, kids binoculars and acne cream. Fun stuff are these liner notes.

* For more info on GAMA BOMB, just click on the links below:

GAMA BOMB – myspace music

GAMA BOMB BLOG

GAMA BOMB:

Philly Byrne – vocals

Joe McGuigan – bass & backing vocals

Luke Graham – guitar

Domo Dixon – guitar

Paul Caffrey – drums

Track Listing For Tales From The Grave In Space:

Slam Anthem

New Eliminators Of Atlantis B.C.

Three Witches

Last Ninjas Unite

Escape From Scarecrow Mountain

Mussolini Mosh

We Respect You

Apocalypse 1997

Return To Blood Castle

Polterghost

Skeletron

Mummy Invasion

LONG LIVE GAMA BOMB.

Stone.

OVERKILL – TO RE-RELEASE NEW CD/DVD WITH THREE UNRELEASED LIVE TRACKS ON OCTOBER 5th, 2010!

Posted in Heavy Metal, heavy metal bands, heavy metal music, heavy metal news, metal odyssey, Music, rock music, rock music news, Thrash Metal, thrash metal bands, thrash metal music with tags , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , on August 7, 2010 by Metal Odyssey

(New York, NY) — Thrash legends OVERKILL will be re-releasing their record “Immortalis” and DVD “Live At Wacken Open Air” on October 5th, 2010 via eOne Music. This will be a CD/DVD combo release with three new unreleased live tracks. Those tracks are:

Within Your Eyes  – (from “Relix” CD)

Blood and Iron – (from “Feel The Fire” CD)

Nice Day…For a Funeral – (from “Horrorscope” CD)

OVERKILL have also officially announced the second leg of their “Killfest 2010” tour. Killfest will continue in areas the band has not played in many years. Bay area masterminds, FORBIDDEN are set for main support. “It’s going to be a KILLER run, thrash-thrash-thrash!  Having FORBIDDEN along for the ride in November will put this totally over the top, just the way we all like it!  Bite down hard, here we come!” says front man Bobby “Blitz” Ellsworth.

Tickets are now on sale here [http://bit.ly/dzweV2]. There is also a special VIP package available that will allow fans one-hour early access to the venue for a special pre-show meet-and-greet.

OVERKILL released “Ironbound” earlier this year which charted at 168 on the Billboard Top 200, the band’s fastest selling record in 16 years. A video was also filmed for “Bring Me The Night” in Brooklyn, NY with director Kevin Custer (HATEBREED, TESTAMENT, SUFFOCATION). View the video here [http://bit.ly/b2apDP].

Nov. 05 – Rochester, NY – Montage Music Hall

Nov. 06 – Farmingdale, NY – Crazy Donkey

Nov. 07 – Providence, RI – Club Hell

Nov. 08 – Baltimore, MD – Sonar

Nov. 09 – Virginia Beach, VA – Gil’s

Nov. 10 – Charlotte, NC – Amos’

Nov. 11 – Raleigh, NC – Volume 11

Nov. 12 – Jacksonville, NC – Hooligans

Nov. 13 – Orlando, FL – Club Firestone

Nov. 14 – Ft Lauderdale, FL – Culture Room

Nov. 15 – Atlanta, GA – The Masquerade

Nov. 16 – Cleveland, OH – Peabody’s

Nov. 17 – Columbus, OH – Newport Music Hall

Nov. 18 – Pittsburgh, PA – Diesel Nightclub

Nov. 19 – Manchester, NH – Rocko’s

Nov. 20 – Sayreville, NJ – Starland Ballroom

For more information on OVERKILL and KILLFEST tickets visit: http://www.wreckingcrew.com/ & http://www.myspace.com/overkill

For more information on E1 Metal please visit http://www.e1metal.com/ or follow @E1MetalATTACK

(Source: entertainmentone – press release, August 6, 2010)

LONG LIVE OVERKILL… THEY F’N RULE.

Stone.

OVERKILL – TO TOUR AUSTRALIA, SEPTEMBER 2010, FOR FIRST TIME!

Posted in Heavy Metal, heavy metal bands, heavy metal music, heavy metal news, metal music, metal odyssey, Music, rock music, rock music news, Thrash Metal, thrash metal bands, thrash metal music with tags , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , on July 10, 2010 by Metal Odyssey

OVERKILL – Thrash Metal Legends, OVERKILL will be taking their 25th Anniversary Tour down under, to the great country of Australia, this September of 2010! The cool poster pic below tells all. From what this tour poster pic reads, this is the first time ever OVERKILL will be unleashing their Thrash Metal in Australia! OVERKILL will be supported on all the Australian dates, by Australia’s very own Thrash Metal attack known as – MORTAL SIN.

*Metal Odyssey has no other information on this tour, just the tour image with info as you see it.

* OVERKILL is out supporting their amazing 2010 studio album release – IRONBOUND, released on E1 Music, on February 9, 2010.

* For more info on OVERKILL, just click the cool link below:

OVERKILL

* The link address for more info on OVERKILL touring Australia in September, 2010 is: http://www.overkillband.com.au/

LONG LIVE OVERKILL!

Stone.

METALLICA – “MASTER OF PUPPETS” VS. “THE BLACK ALBUM”

Posted in hard rock music, Heavy Metal, heavy metal albums, heavy metal bands, heavy metal history, heavy metal music, metal odyssey, Music, rock music, Thrash Metal, thrash metal music with tags , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , on July 3, 2010 by Metal Odyssey

METALLICA – Just the band name alone explodes with pure Metal. Metallica is synonymous with Metal excellence, regardless of any Load or ReLoad moments in their bands storied history. Back on March 3, 1986, my Metal lovin’ life was transformed into a state of Metallidelirium… Master Of Puppets, the third studio album from Metallica, was released. I was already a proud and boisterous fan of Metallica in 1986, looking upon and listening to their debut Kill ‘Em All and sophomore Ride The Lightning albums as if they were Metal gospels.

Before I carry on any further… Master Of Puppets is my favorite Metallica album that this beyond legendary Metal band ever created.

Metallica was on quite a roll with their first three album releases, a generation of loyal Metallica fans was certainly bred from listening to them. I am one of those fans. The Black Album released in 1991 garnered a gazillion more fans, a whole new generation of them too. I can’t and never will dismiss The Black Album as a Metal goliath in the history of Heavy Metal. Often times, when “The Greatest Metal Albums Of All Time” lists are put together, I will see The Black Album in the top five. Truthfully, it doesn’t quite jive with me for Master Of Puppets is a more true measuring stick of the incredible career/catalog of albums that Metallica has created. Regardless, this is just my Metal opinion.

It just seems to appear this way, that Metallica fans that grew up in the “early” 80’s will lean towards Master Of Puppets, (or even Ride The Lightning), as their ultimate Metallica album. Metallica fans that I speak to, that are at least ten years my junior, will more often than not tell me The Black Album is Metallica’s finest. Am I “off base” here? I don’t think so, especially since I have the gift to gab about Metal with just about every person I bump into at fye, concerts, blogs and everywhere else I venture to in life. The topic of Master Of Puppets vs. The Black Album will “pop-up” more frequently than you can ever imagine.

The Black Album is undisputedly the biggest selling Metallica album of all-time. With that fact stated, The Black Album also spent four consecutive weeks as the #1 album on the Billboard 200 chart. I bought this album on or about it’s release date back in 1991, no mistaken. Enter Sandman was a melodically heavy, side-step of a song for Metallica and extremely addicting to my ears upon the very first listen. The same goes for Sad But True. Overall, the entire album was a sigh of relief for me, just knowing that Metallica did not have a song like One on it. Sorry, but any semblance of a ballad coming from Metallica, never mixed well for this lifetime Metalhead.

Back to Master Of Puppets. Battery. The opening track. Whoa. Whoa again. A scary fast Thrash Metal song. An angry sound with angry vocals. I fell in Metal love. Upon my very first listen to Battery, I felt as if the rest of the Heavy Metal world was now in the “catch-up mode”. Master Of Puppets was to the Thrash and Heavy Metal world back in 1986 what the iphone is to our world of communication today. Very, very, important. A cultural impact. Could not picture the world without this Master Of Puppets album… these were my Metal school of thoughts back in 1986. These same Metal school of thoughts I stand by still, in 2010.

The song Master Of Puppets, one word: excellence. My Metal memories of the Summer of 1986 is overridden with this song being blasted to it’s maximum potential at every single keg party, get-together, function or hang-out that my fellow Metalhead buddies and I engaged in back then. The entire Master Of Puppets album was played this way by me and my Metal peers, for arguments sake. The Master Of Puppets album felt like a victory back in 1986, a righteous fist being raised in the air, all in the name of Thrash Metal and all of it’s Metal genre cousins. A feeling that we Metalheads had finally, indeed, conquered all. In 1986, with the release of Master Of Puppets, we Metalheads along with the strength of Metallica behind us… really did conquer an era of Rock ‘N’ Roll.

Wearing the Master Of Puppets concert t-shirt constantly, was like wearing a badge of Metal honor. As I wore this t-shirt, from 1986 until it finally met it’s final demise from over wear… wherever I may have roamed… people looked at it with either horror and disgust or they wanted to talk about it, as if Metallica were the Metal equivalent to the Beatles. My seeing Metallica twice on their Master Of Puppets tour wasn’t just bragging rights back then… it was as if I had been to see The Holy Grail itself and I had been anointed as a Metal prophet.

Now, it is July 3, 2010. I look upon both the Master Of Puppets and The Black Album with undeniable respect and reverence. It’s no secret that Master Of Puppets is the heaviest and fastest album out of the two, being a full-throttle Thrash Metal album. Yet, that is not why Master Of Puppets is my favorite Metallica album, the real reasoning for me is that Master Of Puppets was and still is the real heart and soul sound and energy of what Metallica was really about in the 1980’s. The other non-secret is that The Black Album is Metallica’s biggest seller. I only hope this is not the sole reason as to why so many professionally paid Rock critics put this album in their “top 5” lists. A biggest selling album does not necessarily equate it to being the best offering musically, from that respective bands catalog of albums.

Any fan can choose any Metallica album to be their favorite, it’s a personal choice and there is no right or wrong answer for fans. However, once major mainstream magazines begin to idolize The Black Album in “Top 5 All – Time” lists without even comparing it to Master Of Puppets, well, that just comes across as journalistic bias and purely following the status quo leader. The professionally paid mainstream Rock media ignoring Master Of Puppets and not including it on any “Top 5 All-Time” lists won’t make it go away.

It’s my thought that The Black Album became much more popular due to it’s semi-commercial accessibility. In reflection, could it have been the strength in popularity of Metallica as “THE” Metal band to beat and/or be measured against be the REAL reason for the strong record sales of The Black Album after all? The Metallica momentum was in full swing way before The Black Album was released and Master Of Puppets was a Metal historic building block and reason for this momentum in the first place.

What are your thoughts? Am I all alone in thinking Master Of Puppets is better than The Black Album?

* If you care to read about my seeing Metallica live, a long time ago, in a Metal world far, far, away, then click on the cool link below:

My greatest Metal memory/experience of my life.

LONG LIVE METALLICA!

Stone.

EXODUS – “EXHIBIT B: THE HUMAN CONDITION” RELEASES MAY 18, 2010!!

Posted in heavy metal music, metal odyssey, Music, rock music, thrash metal albums, thrash metal bands, thrash metal music with tags , , , , , , , , , , , , , on April 9, 2010 by Metal Odyssey

EXODUS – Are back with a brand new studio album! Releasing on May 18, 2010, Exhibit B: The Human Condition, proving once again, Exodus and Thrash Metal lives! I can’t wait to sink my Metal ears into this one! 2010 will have Old School Thrash Metal once again!

Track Listing For Exhibit B: The Human Condition:

The Ballad of Leonard and Charles

Beyond the Pale

Hammer and Life

Class Dismissed (A Hate Primer)

Downfall

March of the Sycophants

Nanking

Burn, Hollywood, Burn

Democide

The Sun is My Destroyer

A Perpetual State of Indifference

Good Riddance

Stone.

EXODUS – “THE TOXIC WALTZ” SONG FROM 1989 – OLD SCHOOL THRASH METAL REIGNS!

Posted in 1980's heavy metal albums, 1980's thrash metal albums, 1980's thrash metal bands, 1980's thrash metal music, 1980's heavy metal bands, 1980's heavy metal music, 1980's metal music, current thrash metal bands, heavy metal bands 2010, heavy metal guitarists, heavy metal history, heavy metal legends, metal music, metal odyssey, Music, old school thrash metal bands, old school thrash metal music, thrash metal albums, thrash metal bands, thrash metal bands 2010, thrash metal cover songs, thrash metal guitarists, thrash metal legends, thrash metal music, thrash metal songs with tags , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , on March 9, 2010 by Metal Odyssey

EXODUS – released Fabulous Disaster back in February of 1989. A solid, Old School Thrash Metal album it is. Listening to these Thrash Metal originators is a necessity in my Metal life, Exodus is an instant cure for any Thrash dehydration I may come down with. I like every song on this album, especially The Toxic Waltz. Another very cool song on Fabulous Disaster is the cover version of Low Rider, (originally recorded and made famous by War in 1975). Overdose is another song that swelters with unreal duel guitars and all the Exodus heaviness I could possibly ask for. Growing up with so many 1980’s Thrash Metal Bands, has me revering them in 2010 all the more. This is Exodus from 1989, a vintage lineup. I uphold Thrash loyalty to every Exodus lineup, from their inception to today. Guitarist Gary Holt is for all intents and Metal purposes, a Thrash Metal leader, he has the distinction of being on every Exodus album throughout the bands lineup changes. Gary Holt has Exodus blazing into 2010…  Metal legends never surrender.

The entire Fabulous Disaster album flat out Thrashes and burns. This is a must album for any new or veteran fans of Thrash Metal. Exodus helped pave the way for today’s younger Thrash Metal Bands… Exodus is Thrash Metal roots. I hope you enjoy The Toxic Waltz as much as I do! Fellow fans of Exodus know this song well… a classic. Now, it’s time to jump into the pit and crank this song loud mutha!!!

Exodus, as they appeared on Fabulous Disaster from 1989:

Gary Holt – guitar

Rick Hunolt – guitar

Steve Souza – vocals

Rob McKillop – bass

Tom Hunting – drums

Fabulous Disaster – Track Listing:

The Last Act Of Defiance

Fabulous Disaster

The Toxic Waltz

Low Rider

Cajun Hell

Like Father, Like Son

Corruption

Verbal Razors

Open Season

Overdose

LONG LIVE EXODUS!

Stone.


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